Shoe In Money Review 7: What Really Pissed Me Off

Shoe In Money Review
Okay, I’m scrapping the review I was going to write about the next module of the Shoe In Money System in order to tell you why I’m totally pissed off.

I’ve really been liking the course so far, right? I’ve learned a lot and have high hopes for the part I haven’t been through. But there is one thing you need to be aware of:

It turns out that when you sign up for Shoe In Money, they sell your phone number to a “third party” that calls you and offers you an “opportunity” to get training in a different system. Call me crazy, but I don’t see that as a good business practice in and of itself.

But it’s twice as bad when the third party is represented by slimeballs.

I got one of these called. I talked to a guy named Gary, who claimed to have made a million dollars each year for the past five years. And yet he’s in phone sales and has a supervisor? I don’t know.

I do know that Gary used slimeball tactics to try to get me interested in his program. During the course of the call, he tried to convince me that without his program:

  • I’m being unfair to my husband, who is having to work hard to support the family.
  • I’m not protecting my kids or my future.
  • I’m expecting to get stuff handed to me instead of working for it.
  • I’m going to fail, no matter how hard I work.

On top of that, he tried repeatedly to get me to tell him my credit limit – because telling some random stranger on the phone how much to charge me for an unspecified program is such a good idea.

I was totally pissed off after that call. Mostly at Gary, but a little bit at the Shoe In Money folks for selling my number. How do I know they did that? Because I contacted their support and asked if the phone call sounded like anything they were associated with. Here’s their response:

“We have had a lot of requests from people who want more in depth one on one mentoring so we do work with 3rd parties that will work with them and help ensure there success. There is obviously no obligation and you can just tell them no thank you.

I do want to thank you personally for reaching out to us because we do not ever want it to come across as high pressure or anything like that.”

Then maybe you should make a better choice in who you sell your customer list to? Or better yet, don’t sell it.

Shoe In Money is giving me good enough information that this bump in the road didn’t make me want to stop the journey completely. It did irritate the fire out of me (and leave me with some ideas for blog posts – nothing’s a total disaster as long as you can blog about it).

I will warn you, though, that if you buy Shoe In Money and don’t want to deal with the sleazy phone sales, save yourself some irritation and give them a fake number.

What do you think? Is selling customers’ information just part of doing business these days or a scummy business practice?

We’ll get back to our regularly scheduled review posts in the next day or two. I’m still working through the action plan and learning a lot from the modules. I’ll bring you up to date in the next review post. In the meantime, be sure to sign up below to be notified of new blog posts.

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10 thoughts on “Shoe In Money Review 7: What Really Pissed Me Off

  1. Kelly Felix talks about why he launched Bring the Fresh and how scummy he felt using boiler room tactics like this. I vehemently disagree with anyone selling my information. And I don’t like their attitude of “you can just say no.” Flippant. Glad you’re warning people about it – the product would have to kick butt for me to continue.
    Tiffany Dow recently posted…The Freaking Fantastic Blog and List Building Challenge Day 6My Profile

    • That kind of makes me interested in Bring the Fresh :-) . The product is good, which is what makes this so annoying. I’m learning a lot – not the least of which is how I don’t want to be marketed to.

  2. Thank you for informing us about this. I will never buy that product. Reprehensible!
    Crystal Touchton recently posted…Embrace Change On Free To Use Sites Or Create Your Own SiteMy Profile

    • The sad thing is that the product I bought is actually worth having, at least from what I’ve seen halfway through implementing it. Being associated with slimeballs and selling customers’ information isn’t exactly good business, though.

  3. I can’t believe this! Did they actually say those things to you? How dare they! Selling someone’s personal information sucks and should never be done. You should be given the option to contact these people if you wish. I hate it when people try to force things on you.

    I have to be honest. I don’t like his sales page. Don’t show me those checks. I don’t have any clue what you did to earn the money. A lot of people who flash checks like that are selling a product, but they don’t want to tell you that. And you’re right, if they’re making millions a year, why would they be calling you?

    I don’t know Katie. I guess I’ll have to see what unfolds with this program. I’m subscribing; I’m dying to see more of what you uncover.

    I also like your style of writing. Very loose and relaxed. Not school teacher at all. LOL Well, you know what I mean.
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    • Thanks, Cynthia! I’ve been practicing the writing to sound more natural :-) .

      You’re right about the sales page. Apparently he’s famous for making a lot of money with Adsense back when it was new and there’s a picture of him holding his Adsense check that was in the news. That one doesn’t bother me; it establishes some of his history. But I thought the rest was overkill. It remains to be seen whether his program produces any results. It seems promising, but I won’t know until I get it all implemented.

  4. Horrible! I can believe it because the same thing happened to me with a different program. They must all be taking the same training :) What annoys me most about this tactic is that Shoemoney is selling a product that’s supposed to make you a gazillionaire, right? Obviously he doesn’t have enough confidence in his own product because he’s allowing someone else to sell you something else that’s going to make you a double gazillionaire.

    Instead of selling his list, why doesn’t he make his product better? Why doesn’t he add more value?

    Instead, he’s getting paid a second time on the back end of the additional product sales.

    Malia recently posted…Fear Is No Excuse – Do It AnywayMy Profile

    • Why doesn’t he add more value?

      Because he doesn’t get as much money as he does by selling his list, I guess? It certainly lessened my opinion of the whole program, and Shoemoney specifically.

  5. Internet marketing isn’t the only niche in which this sort of thing occurs. Self Help tends to also have a lot of these boiler room sales tactics for courses and seminars that have unrealistic and unquantifiable promises. I can think of one writer in particular in the metaphysical arena who has a back end high pressure sales team highly skilled in psychological manipulation. They pressure people to max out their credit cards to obtain a miracle. After doing that, it would take a miracle to save them from bankruptcy, but somehow despite all the bad press, that metaphysical writer manages to suppress anything that connects him to them. It makes me ill to contemplate.

    That said, KUDOS TO YOU for recognizing these sleazy sales tactics and standing up to them. Then, DOUBLE KUDOS TO YOU for speaking out and helping others avoid this sort of thing.
    CCGAL Janelle recently posted…Only Took Me 5 Years To See The LightMy Profile

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